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Post by Alessandro Darko on Sept 1, 2008 21:34:18 GMT -5
Hey Guys! I just wanted to start a thread that would be a brainstorming effort so that we can bring fresh ideas into the mix. It occurred to me that the central plot is very intricate and very focused on a serious tone-- basically life or death. While the central plot is developing, other things should be going on too. Remember there are classes to attend, friendship circles, cliques, Slytherin Vs. Gryffindor, etc. etc. ect. We need to start fleshing out some original ideas and some side-plots. Sound good? I'll get the ball rolling with an idea that I'd like to transpire somewhere along the lines. _____________________________________________________ Alessandro comes across a mysterious box in Borgin and Burkes. It has strange engravings marked all over the box (These markings will be some form of ancient runes, or some obscure dialect which will be some sort of spell that is imbued into the box). There are seven symbols that are carved into the lid, and they would signify the Seven Deadly Sins. The whole idea is that when he opens the box at Hogwarts, it releases the seven deadly sins and they hunt down and find students to latch themselves onto, causing the student to demonstrate a heightened output of whichever sin that has claimed them. The Sins: Luxuria(Lust)- Evoking sexual aggression. (The user that represents this sin must keep it PG-13. Perhaps it is a student that, while possessed by this sin, becomes overly flirtatious, suggestive, and perhaps non-exclusive when pertaining to sexual orientation?)Gula(Gluttony)- Over-self-indulgence. Over-consumption. The student will become eager for meals, think about eating and drinking way too much, will be cramming sweets into their mouths at every whim, etc etc etc.Avaritia(Greed)- Blanket term. Covetousness. Wanting/seeking wealth. Hoarding materials or objects. Disloyalty, deliberate betrayal, and anything for personal gain. Theft and robbery by means of violence, trickery, or manipulation of authority. Whoever is claimed by this sin will most likely try to steal and want everything for themself.Acedia(Sloth)- Sin of sadness and despair. Can cause the beholder to become impotent in the sense that they give up easily, are poorly motivated, and are basic slackers. This sin is associated with laziness, and inefficiency. Indifference. Unwillingness to act, and unwillingness to care.Ira(Wrath)- Anger, hate, rage, malice. All are associated with Wrath. Generally wishing to do harm, or evil to others. "The love of justice perverted to revenge, or spite." This student would probably have violent tendencies to say the least.Invidia(Envy)- Differs from Greed in the sense that Envy is a more general term. Greed focuses on material possessions, while Envy is an overall aspect. The sin of Envy applies to feelings of hostility and resentment toward another individual that has something or some quality that the person under control of Envy lacks. This student may have a bitter, and sarcastic attitude change and is quite unpleasant to be around.Superbia(Pride)- Self-love, and Vanity. The desire to be more important or more attractive than others. This sin evokes the elevation of the self above others. "Love of self perverted to hatred and contempt for one's neighbor."This may cause the student to become egocentric, extremely vain, haughty, fail to give compliments to others when due. Mainly focused on the self.I'll need someone to help come up with a history that would link the "7 Deadly Sins" to the world of HP, perhaps they have some ancient meaning that stems from the Wizarding world that the muggles have adopted into their religion? This side-plot still needs development. I can see a variety of ways that it can fit in with the central plot, and it could be a cool side thing. Now, whoever replies to this thread should offer up some kind of plot idea of their own, and as this continues, we can have a compendium of things to RP about. Sound like a good idea? Well I thought so...
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Post by antontarasov on Sept 1, 2008 22:10:46 GMT -5
Hmmmm...what an interesting idea. Let me think of a suggestion….
Well you can’t fail with anti-muggle sentiment. Perhaps before just a little prior to the Founding of Hogwarts, seven angry powerful purebloods, with distinct hatred for the Muggle race, got together to find a way to destroy the Muggles and thus muggle-borns? They got together, each thrusting their most predominant sin into a box, with intention of sending their box as a gift to Muggle royalty. They each did so, sending their boxes off to different parts of the world; each box being given as a special gift for a King or a Queen of the Muggle World. Of course, the Seven Purebloods also got together and thrust all sins into the “ultimate” box, sending it off to the Pope or some other predominant Religious Muggle leader. Over the years, the boxes were linked to destroying sins and where ultimately destroyed; the four founders particularily could play a big part in that; all accept one, which somehow found its way to Borgin and Burkes; the Ultimate Box.
Well, there you go. That’s my suggestion…
Can I ask that Anton get Lust? He already has a confident personality and I can see him doing such things, specifically taking it to the extreme after such event occurs. Although, I probably won’t go that much into non-specific sexuality…if that’s okay. He’ll definitely be coming on to people, though, in a very much a comical way.
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Post by Alessandro Darko on Sept 1, 2008 22:32:48 GMT -5
Thanks! Thats a good start!
Anyone else have any ideas about the beginnings of the "Seven Sins"?
Guiding Light: Lets not think of them as sins, but as "characteristics" that could have belonged to seven ancient witches and wizards.
Anton can have lust, that should be fun! (and you don't have to do the non-specific sexuality thing, it was more like a suggestion.)
I suppose I shall claim Pride for Alessandro. Anyone else wish to take a sin??
Muahahahahahaha!
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Post by Silren Chalis on Sept 1, 2008 22:56:53 GMT -5
I am contemplating Ira (Wrath)... Already Silren is slightly 'loose' with her tongue. Let me know what you all think or if she is better suited for another or another is better suited for Wrath.
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Post by Zane Lucifer Bishop on Sept 2, 2008 11:45:06 GMT -5
I could see Zee having either greed or envy. Probably envy. Envy'd be more fun to play at least. I'm already pretty deeply involved in the main plot though so I won't irrevocably claim a sin in case someone less involved would like it. But yes, if no one else would like to take it from my tentative hold, I'll take Envy.
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Post by Bryan Kelley on Sept 2, 2008 15:10:41 GMT -5
I think it sounds like a good idea. I'll refrain from nabbing any of them for Bryan or any second character that I may or may not make, as I prefer to let other people at them, especially when I already have a character involved in a official board plot.
But the idea does sound interesting. Would the names listed before the sin be perhaps the first name of the witch/wizard the trait is after? And I do like Anton's idea ...
But perhaps instead of seven different boxes and an ultimate one. What if there were originally seven boxes sent to seven great muggle leaders, which each with a different characteristic, in hopes of corrupting the muggles. And once the box was open it affects all within the area ... so each kingdom, if you will, is plagued with one certain characteristic. Which will build into battles and wars, especially with those more dominate traits ... eventually the magical folk realize what happened and they somehow collect the boxes and unable to destroy them [why? don't ask me] they were only able to merge them into one box which was then hidden away from eyes until somehow it once more surfaced into the real world with everyone believing the tales of old as just myths or legends and not something actually real...
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Post by Kerridon Paradox on Sept 2, 2008 17:36:13 GMT -5
But then, once the box was opened again at Hogwarts, wouldn't that mean that all of the characteristics affected everyone at Hogwarts, 'cause they're all in the surrounding area? Perhaps only a little bit gets out - say, the box is dropped and it cracks - and so it only affects the people who are nearest? As for the why of not being able to destroy them originally, that could play into the whole balance being needed between good and evil. If the seven deadly sins make up evil, then destroying them would surely be destroying evil completely? Which would lead to an unbalanced world dominated by good. Since I don't think anyone wants that, there would probably be some pretty strong charms protecting the seven deadly sins. I was thinking of claiming 'sloth' for Caity, but it might be a bit cruel to put her through any more despair lol. Then I was thinking 'envy' for Tommy, but Zane's already claimed that... but check your PMs, Zee.
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Post by Bryan Kelley on Sept 2, 2008 18:32:45 GMT -5
Hm ... well to go with the idea of the box being opened. What if when they collected the original boxes, they could not completely undue the magic/trait which was released and in order to destroy the boxes they had to undo/contain what was released, but since not all of it could be recovered they were only able to merge what was left into one box. And since there are parts of the seven "sins" still released they became apart of mankind. So this way, when the ultimate box opens, the sins/traits do not affect everyone -- as there is a little bit of the sins/traits in everyone from long ago, that the sins/traits seek out the one who best exemplifies their traits and hence enhances this characteristic of the person.
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Post by lydianowan on Sept 2, 2008 19:23:31 GMT -5
Yes, along with the idea of how the traits come out. The whole balance of good vs. evil is quite well thought of! That would explain a lot about why it cannot be destroyed. Yes, I'd say that the traits only affect one person...let's say, the closest being to the box that already strongly holds the trait. The Wizards that conjured the box could have well analyzed the personalities of the Rulers of the Muggle world of their time. That way, each box sent out was particularly designed to effect that ruler...
I'm thinking about Greed for Paris. She's already wealthy, and prioritizes it in her thinking. That is what could drive her to get more involved with the Mage...a thirst for more wealth, luxury, and power.
Oh, and one more question...perhaps we should brainstorm how exactly to fix this event once it occurs? I know that we'll want to roleplay it out for quite awhile...but still.
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Post by Alessandro Darko on Sept 2, 2008 21:54:55 GMT -5
Actually Bryan, the names in front of the sins are the actual names from Latin. I wikipedia'd Now, moving right along. THANK YOU, ALL OF YOU for your input on helping me create the backstory for the 7 Sins. Although, I don't want to call them "sins" in fear of being too religious. I feel that witches and wizards wouldn't call them sins. So if anyone could think of a substitute for that, great. I like a collaboration of Anton's idea and Bryan's. We'll nix the ultimate box in addition to the seven, but I like the idea of combining them into one ultimate one, which would explain the strange runes/markings, and symbols adorning the box. The box wont have been in Hogwarts until Alessandro brings it there from Borgin&Burkes. So I am not sure if the school would have any specific charms and protections against the seven sins or whatever. Now, As for the sins affecting an entire area, lets limit that to the person opening the individual box, corrupting the leader (as I guess they were sent to each leader/king/queen) and that could affect their kingdoms secondhand through their actions. Okay? I think we're getting somewhere. Here's the list so far:Anton -- Luxuria(Lust) Alessandro -- Superbia(Pride) Silren -- Ira(Wrath) Tommy -- Invidia(Envy) Paris -- Avaritia(Greed)Bryan, and Cait, I encourage you both to take a sin! It's not going to be something thats going to majorly deter from the main plot, in fact, I think I can find a way to connect the two. Perhaps an agent of Dark Phoenix plants the box at Borgin&Burkes, and gets Alessandro to buy it? I'm not sure if Kerridon is still in league with her. If not, Silren Chalis can befriend Alessandro and can accompany him to Borgin&Burkes. I think it would be quite funny, having it backfire on her as the sin of Ira claims her. Also, have any of you heard of the Seven Heavenly Virtues? So we can bring that into play later if more people want to get involved. Perhaps these virtues need to interact with the Sins to break them free? Eh? I thought about this I'll list those later. Mmk. I'll make a thread where Alessandro will get the box from Borgin&Burkes. (Silren or Kerridon with him) And they'll bring it back to Hogwarts. The people wanting to get a sin will probably need to be in an area semi-near his proximity. I dunno if I think the sins should be a visible colored ball of light, or just invisible after the box is opened, and then we can Rp a sudden odd feeling overcoming them. I envision the sins as slowly corrupting, like a virus almost, so I don't think people should be immediately killing people(Ira) or stealing everything(Avaritia). Yeah? Let me know what y'all think We still need Sloth and Gluttony. Those are completely fun, so come on y'all. EDIT: Also, please feel free to brainstorm other side-plot ideas. I'd love to hear your thoughts and what side-plots would be fun for everyone. It will make an intricate web of things for our characters to be involved in. I sometimes feel like I have nothing really important to do with Darko, Idk if I'm the only one. lol.
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Post by Zane Lucifer Bishop on Sept 2, 2008 22:09:59 GMT -5
I've gone ahead and let Tommy pick up Invidia, and will instead still tentatively say Zee will play . . . well, either of them, though I think Gula will be less disruptive of where I wanna take him. If two other characters wanna hop in, awesome. If no one does though I'll take either of the leftovers so we can get this rolling. You're so full of good ideas Darko. Still, is there no limit to the trouble Alessandro's gonna's cause? How about Vices instead of Sins? Or Depravities? Or Iniquities? And I'd almost rather wait for one of the virtues for Zee, so I completely encourage others to take the remaining two sins.
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Post by Alessandro Darko on Sept 2, 2008 22:27:34 GMT -5
Virtues? Zane Lucifer Bishop?? Well thats an Oxymoron if I've ever interpreted one...lol j/k. I'm sure Zane has LOADS of virtues....somewhere....locked up tightly in a box...encased in cement....buried under an ocean of evil...lol
But ok. Yeah I'll leave this up for a while...and introduce the virtues soon.
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Post by Bryan Kelley on Sept 2, 2008 23:35:37 GMT -5
I figured the Names in front where an official name for the sin, I was asking more for background story, as it would make it more interesting with how those names were acquired. -shrugs-
None of the "sins" really fit Bryan in my opinion, which is one of the reasons why I bowed out. Second reason is I'm usually someone who prefers to take a background role and let other people at the "fun" stuff, as usually there are so many people who want to get in on the "fun" stuff.
But I've heard of the virtues. I'd say, if you wanted to go with the idea that they couldn't collect them all, the virtues were created to balance out the sins that remained in the world after they merged the sins into one box, and to keep the balance they made a box for the virtues as well...
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Post by Kerridon Paradox on Sept 3, 2008 1:36:38 GMT -5
Yeah, Kerridon's good now so it'd need to be Silren who takes Alessandro to Knockturn. I might wait for the virtues for Cait or Kerridon, or just not take any at all now I've got one for Tommy *shrug* We'll see. And thanks Zee
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Post by kairava on Sept 3, 2008 2:54:23 GMT -5
Since we are giving sentience to these Vices and Virtues, I would like to add my reasoning to how I believe they would choose their 'vessels'.
Since Vices are more or less a wickedness, I believe that they would prey on the weak; someone who showed a great weakness (or strength as they may see it) with the chosen vice. They would choose someone who has a hard time controlling the urge.
Virtues, however, I believe would find someone who is weak in the virtue because they will want to strengthen them or guide them. They would choose someone who is in distress with the virtue or has the virtue deep down but has a difficult time with it.
Perhaps Sloth will be slow in taking control and acting in Hogwarts, perhaps Greed will attempt to control more than one person, or perhaps Envy may switch from person to person?
Seven Heavenly Virtues: Chastity, Abstinence, Liberality, Diligence, Patience, Kindness, and Humility.
Perhaps Diligence will choose quickly or perhaps Patience will take time?
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